Member Berries? Remember when? 375 Days ago and counting Edition

Remember When in football starting on October 17th 2015…. We beat Michigan in Ann Arbor on the last play of the game to make it 7 out of 8 wins against U of M?

Remember When in football…We  beat Ohio State in Columbus on the last play of the game to essentially clinch the division championship?

Remember When in football…We destroyed Penn State to set up the possibility of having the chance to win our third Big Ten title in five years?

Remember When in football…We took “the drive” in Indianapolis and beat Iowa to claim our Third Big Ten Title to make it 3 out of 5?

Remember When in football…We qualified for the College Football Playoffs?

Remember When in basketball…We beat Kansas again, this time in Chicago?

Remember When in basketball…We were ranked #3 and beat Providence in California to win the Wooden Legacy tournament and then stick the trophy on a coffee table in the lobby of the basketball office because MSU has so many basketball trophies?

Remember When in basketball and football…Both teams in were ranked in the top 3 of the AP polls?

Remember When in basketball…we beat Louisville and Florida with multiple injuries on the team?

Remember When in basketball…We beat Maryland, Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin, and Ohio State in a span of 30 days?

Remember When in hockey…We beat Michigan at a sold-out Joe Louis Arena to capture the newly created “Iron D” Trophy?

Remember When in basketball…Once again in Indianapolis we won ANOTHER Big Ten Tournament by beating Ohio State, Maryland, and Purdue in a span of three days?

Remember When in baseball..We started the season winning fourteen of our first fifteen games with wins over SEC teams and prominent programs?

Remember When in football…We went to South Bend and beat Notre Dame to start the season off 2-0?

Remember When in men’s soccer…We won twelve games and only losing three putting us highly ranked with road wins versus the like of SMU, Notre Dame, and Ohio State with big home wins against Michigan, Akron, and two Ivy league schools?

Member Berries…..Always there when you need them!

 

For Michigan State Fans, listen it is….

A roller coaster of a season for the Michigan State football team as it loses by double digits at home to a BYU that is not great. This coming off of an overtime loss on the road to our fieriest rival Indiana. Also, it being Michigan State’s third straight loss with the first of three coming off a 20 plus point loss at home to our second fieriest rival Wisconsin. Let’s shift gears to basketball to get our minds right.

Let’s talk about this season’s Michigan State Basketball team and its future. Miles Bridges as we tweeted out earlier may be one of the best players to every play at Michigan State when it is all said and done. He is more athletic and stronger then when legendary Jason Richardson was a freshman. He is strong finisher and can shoot better than people give him credit for. Not only can he finish but he can finish strong at the rake and dunk like you wouldn’t believe. What about the rest of the infamous #TheClass? Joshua Langford is playing well but he is not playing at the high level of Bridges but then again no one is. Think of Langford as a Chalie Bell type of player and be happy. We also tweeted about who you the fans thought would be the starters for this season. After talking to those who have been watching practice, the answer(s) may surprise you. For starters (no pun attended) you will see Tum Tum Nairn start at point guard. Cassius Winston lost about 15 pounds and is playing well but will not push Tum Tum for the starting position at least not until the end of the season. Gavin Schilling will start at center and looks like Tum Tum has his offensive limits but is a solid player and defender who Izzo trusts. Nick Ward will back up Gavin and he is getting the “Derrick Nix” treatment from Izzo because Izzo as we all know, expects a lot from those who are talented but may need some extra choice of words from time to time. Eron Harris has improved and looks to be next to Bridges having the second best week of practice and the second best player on the team period. Harris is the key to early season success. The shocker is, Matt McQuaid may find a way to start for the Spartans. It would make Bridges a hybrid small forward/power forward but Izzo seems to really trust McQuaid. When left open, McQuaid can easily hit the open jumper with ease. Another surprise is that Kenny Goins may be the 7th or even the 6th man of the team early on. He has still not been cleared for full contact but Izzo likes what he can bring off of the bench. What about the rest of the players not mentioned on the team? No comment.

Back to football (as we of course compare it to basketball), next to Tom Izzo’s best season of his coaching career when he and the Spartans won the national championship in 2000 was the 2006-2007 season when he lead the Spartans to the round of 32 in the NCAA tournament before he and Michigan State lost to North Carolina.  Same can be said when Mark Dantonio had great success with two Big Ten Championships won in Indianapolis that lead to a Rose Bowl victory against Stanford and a College Football Playoff berth. But what he doesn’t get nearly enough credit for when in 2012 he kept the Spartans very competitive winning 7 games and winning their Bowl game against TCU.  Which bring us to this season. When Spartan fans want to anoint Dantonio the king of East Lansing over Tom Izzo we let them know that Izzo is not leaving his throne. If Dantonio can beat U of M and OSU at home this season, then we will reconsider but Izzo has ALWAYS been consistent and also makes the tournament. Dantonio if Michigan State doesn’t win at least six games and make a bowl game, then Izzo is the king of East Lansing until he retires. It is that plain and simple and it the bigger scheme of things, it really doesn’t matter and here is why.

All Spartan fans want at this point is what happened in 2012. We want the games to be close and win 7 games not 4 or 5. Then we want a bowl victory lead by our future quarterback for the 2017 season. It is that simple folks, it is that simple. Go to bed and download Napster if you have not done so already (30 day free trial) and stay away from talk radio and fans of other teams on social media until next Sunday.

#TheDreamClass #Family

The new hastags for the 2017 Michigan State Basketball incoming class that we came up with is #TheDreamFamily and #TheDreamClass. Based on the concept of the dream team but a strong sense of family in the Michigan State Basketball program and specifically who, how, and why they are recruiting these top basketball recruits of the the 2017 class. We created the hastag #TheClass and even we had a MSU fan who calls himself Spartan Designs (@sparty_designs) photoshop an old tweet to make it seem like he did and created it. We just ignore fans like that who try to claim our slogans as their own. We are very proud of the #TheClass hastag and name and the t-shirt that was created and worn my Miles Bridges as he announced his commitment to Michigan State. But now we move on to the 2017 class.

The first commit and the player who is the catalyst  for #TheDreamFamily is Jaren Jackson Jr. The versatile 5 star stretch power forward from Indiana is a huge pickup for Michigan State.  Rivals.com ranks him the 15th best player in the nation https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/1052. More on him in our next article profiling all of the members of #TheDreamClass.

Next up:  4 star  power forward Xavier Tillman from Grand Rapids Christian  https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2657 We expect him to announce his commitment to Michigan State sooner than later. He is ranked 86 nationally by rivals.com and his stock is rising.

There is two and then who should MSU fans expect to commit next?

Nojel Eastern or Brian Bowen

Brain Bowen ranked 22 nationally by rivals.com has ties to Saginaw as many of you may know. He is also high school teammates Jaren Jackson Jr. Bowen has some top schools going after him so if he does not commit soon, MSU fans don’t panic. He may take his time like Miles Bridges.

Nojel Eastern ranked 75 nationally by rivals.com has some Big Ten schools fighting hard for him to commit to them. Some recruiting experts are surprised that he has not committed to Michigan State. We are even curious to know why he has not. However, he may be weighing his options and we can’t blame him for that. We will see what he does within the next couple of weeks.

Who are we unsure of?

Gary Trent Jr. and Brandon McCoy ranked 11 and 13 respectfully by rivals.com

If we had to pick, we believe McCoy would go Green and pick Michigan State. We are still hearing conflicting things on both guys which is expected for guys this heavily recruited. We will keep you updated.

Wild card?

Paul Scruggs

 

 

 

Weekly Articles for the rest of the summer starting this week

Our first article written by us will reflect on this past season for the Spartans!

Some articles listed below in case you have been on summer vacation and have not been following Michigan State Basketball:

http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/07/penn_state_basketball_will_pla.html

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/07/andrew_white_iii_opens_up_on_i.html

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/115591/michigan-state-recruit-miles-bridges-maxes-out-vertical-test

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/07/jabari_parker_comes_to_moneyba.html

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/115684/miles-bridges-hits-his-head-on-a-rim-during-pro-am

http://isportsweb.com/2016/07/20/michigan-state-basketball-spartans-nba-summer-league/

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/07/22/michigan-matters-spotlight-tom-izzo-helping-holy-redeemer-ford-aiding-women-fighting-cancer-and-battling-for-the-white-house/

Your Guide to the NCAA Tournament

The Best Chance for a 1st Round Upset out of the 14 through 16 Seeds:

Fresno State beating Utah: Honorable Mention: Wisconsin-Green Bay

The Most Dangerous Teams to pull the 1st round upset 13 through 12:

Hawaii beating Cal: Honorable Mention: Chattanooga

This Year’s Potential George Mason 2006 Run Team:

Witchita State: Honorable Mention: Northern Iowa

God only knows who goes to the Sweet 16:

The bottom half of the East Bracket: From WVU to Pitt, who knows!

The year of 1st round upsets?

No, do not expect 12 seeds beating 5 seeds, etc.

Will the Big Ten Look impressive in the 1st Weekend?

Yes, Expect Michigan State and Maryland to advance to the second weekend. Do not count out Iowa and Purdue either. We will not be surprised if the Big Ten has 5 teams out of 7 make it the the Sweet 16

Will the NCAA get their 2nd Round “Dream” Match Ups?

No! Villanova vs Temple, Texas vs. Texas A&M, Notre Dame vs. Michigan, Indiana vs. Kentucky, Syracuse vs. Michigan State, etc. Half of those match ups will not happen

What is the Weakest Region Top to Bottom?

A toss up between the West and the South regions. By a slim margin we say the South.

What is the Weakest  Region seeds 1 through 4?

This may surprise some but it is the South Region 

The Most Dangerous Team Seeds 16 though 9?

Providence: Honorable Mention: VCU

What is the First Round technically upset  Lock?

#10 Seed VCU beating #7 Seed Oregon State

What is the Legit First Round Upset that few will see coming?

#14 Seed Fresno State beating #3 Utah

What Upsets to look out for in the 1st Weekend?

Hawaii beating Cal, Witchita State beating Arizona, Wisconsin Green Bay beating Texas A & M, and Gonzaga beating Seton Hall.

What is the most underrated “Blue Blood” Team in this Tournament?

Kentucky by Far

Best Sweet 16 Match up?

Hands down Kentucky vs. North Carolina

Did Michigan State get a unfavorable draw?

Yes! Playing UNC or Kentucky in the Final Four will be difficult. Beating Virginia for the 3rd straight year will not be an easy task 

But what about the location of games for Michigan State?

We Know but Location of games is very OVERRATED unless it is being held in your home state like when MSU played in Auburn Hills, Michigan.

Our Final Four is?

MSU vs. North Carolina and Oklahoma vs. Maryland

National Champion?

Michigan State University

 

 

Our First Story in our Five Part Featured Series

Part Uno of our Series, Cinco for Cinco

Kenny Goins, the reason Michigan State has taken it to a whole new level

By FinalFouru.com December 2nd 2015 Follow us on Twitter: @MSUfinalfouru

Kenny Goins is a red-shirt freshman on Michigan State’s basketball team. An unheralded walk on from Troy, Michigan who played his high school basketball at Warren Mott High, Goins showed Michigan State fans tonight what type of basketball player he has become. Goins had division 1 offers from various mid-major schools like the University of Detroit but chose to walk on at Michigan State. He red-shirted his first year and this season, his second year as a student-athlete at Michigan State, he was offered for this season, a full ride athletic scholarship. While all of this was happening, a term that we came up with at finalfouru.com #TheClass was all of the talk among Spartan fans as Tom Izzo had put together his best recruiting class ever for the 2016 class. Little would Michigan State fans know, that a little known current player on MSU’s roster would propel them to an 8-0 record.

We are not claiming that Kenny Goins has been the number one factor of getting Michigan State to an 8-0 record right now, but we are arguing that he is the main reason they are 8-0 and not 7-1. Michigan State had played three games in four days this past week in California. Denzel Valentine, Bryn Forbes, and Deyonta Davis had gotten the Spartans to a 7-0 record and no one is arguing that fact. This Wednesday night in East Lansing, Michigan an unsung hero gave Michigan State a victory over #24 ranked Louisville and has Spartan fans across the country celebrating a hard fought victory over a nationally ranked opponent.

But first, what do Spartan fans really know about Kenny Goins? The answer, not much. In our first part of our five part series we will take a look at five Michigan State players and tell their stories and how they came about and how they have had an impact of this magical Spartan season. Kenny Goins played his entire freshman season on the freshman basketball team, not playing one game on the junior varsity level. By his sophomore season, he was moved up to varsity but was not a full time starter. During his junior season he started to blossom but some locally had his chances of getting a division 1 football scholarship more likely than that of a basketball one. By his senior season, he was going on being coached by his third different varsity head basketball coach and prior to his senior season was a standout football player on Warren Mott’s football team. It wasn’t until the start of his senior season did he officially get offered his first full ride division basketball scholarship. The summer leading to his senior season was the first summer he had played AAU basketball and he received looks but no official offers. Not only had Kenny have above a 3.5 GPA going into his senior year of high school, he was also Warren Mott’s school president and a three letter varsity athlete. Anyone who had watched a game that Kenny Goins had played in during his senior season may not have been blown away by his on court presence or his overall playing ability, but if they had taken a closer look, they could have seen his raw athletic ability and his high basketball IQ. He would end up leading his high school team to their first state quarterfinals before losing to a division 1 laden team in West Bloomfield High. Some locally may have said that Kenny was foolish to turn down full ride division one scholarships to walk on at Michigan State. But boy do those people look foolish now, because not only is Kenny Goins a legit division one basketball player, he is without question a solid Big Ten player on the best team in the entire Big Ten conference.

So why is Kenny Goins a former walk on red-shirt freshman responsible for Michigan State being 8-0? He carried the tired legs of Forbes, Valentine, Davis, and company to victory with his five points, thirteen rebounds, and his relentless defense and energy diving for loose balls and willing the Spartans to victory. Valentine for example looked spent and his legs did not allow him to play the defense he was custom to playing. Forbes did not play a ton in the first half but came on strong as Goins keep the play alive on the offensive end giving Forbes an opportunity to hit the three ball. Davis the highly touted freshman played better with Goins playing alongside him than any other Michigan State big man tonight. Tom Izzo saw enough in Goins during the Boise State and Providence games to trust Kenny in not only playing meaningful minutes but playing clutch time minutes down the stretch of the game. Usually, the Spartans would have lost this early season game and Izzo would have used the loss as a motivating factor for March but not tonight folks, not tonight.

This is not to disrespect any former walk on who wore the Michigan State basketball jersey, but Kenny Goins will be the best former walk on basketball player that Tom Izzo has ever coached. That is not an opinion but a fact. He is a special player that Michigan State is lucky to have. The future is extremely bright for the Michigan State basketball program and Kenny Goins is a big reason for that optimism.

 

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#TheClass Update: Josh Jackson

Michigan State as many of you are aware of now has four verbal commitments for the 2016 Class and there is a strong push to get Jackson on board especially from his former AAU teammate Miles Bridges. Miles commitment to Michigan State after sitting down with a very trusted source is more important than you may realize. Even after Jackson decided to leave the state of Michigan to go to his prep high school that he currently attends in California, he came back that summer to play for an AAU team called 1Nation coached by now University of Detroit Assistant coach Jermaine Jackson. That summer between his sophomore and junior year he played with that Michigan based team that had Miles Bridges and company on. Now,  Josh went on to play with AAU teams that are known nationally as the best that there are to offer and then some but our source says that he wants to “come back home” to Michigan aka Michigan State. Bridges, Winston, and now there is a very good chance that Jackson as well will play together at Michigan State. Our source says that it is not a “lock” like he had predicted with Bridges and Winston but he put Jackson at an 80% chance of committing to Michigan State when all is said and done. Jackson more than likely with take official visits to possibly Maryland and Kansas. Arizona with his Team USA connections is a possibility but for the first time we are solidly convince that Michigan State is in the driver’s seat.  The State of Michigan and coming back home brought back Bridges and we now believe will in the end do the same for Jackson. There is more to the story of the lure of coming to Michigan State and one story involving a certain female student athlete at MSU who may be dating a current football player but you know the story as LL Cool J once said, “If the love is real than it has to handle competition.” However, our second source cannot confirm that crazy rumor so it is just a wild rumor. All that we can say for certain is that #TheClass is going to be the best group of student athletes to come to Michigan State in the same recruiting class/year. Josh Jackson is Magic Ervin Johnson good and him joining this already stellar class would be beyond comprehension and simply amazing.

#TheQuintuplets?

We came up with #TheClass first but let’s move on

We have 4 highly ranked and more importantly talented players coming in for the 2016 class. Miles Bridges, who is ranked No. 8 in the ESPN 100 has given Michigan State the number 1 recruiting class in the country. He joins five-star wing Josh Langford (No. 17), Cassius Winston (No. 29), and Nick Ward (No. 39) aka, #TheClass. Next on the list is the one and only Josh Jackson. #TheQuintuplets can become a reality and let us explain how.

We won’t have enough scholarships, right? Wrong, if you go to http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/michigan-state we can see why with the four committed recruits for 2016 that you would think that Michigan State is maxed out at 13 scholarships. For one, Kenny Goins scholarship is a year by year basis. Second, everyone involved with the program knows Eron Harris is going pro after this season. That makes room for Josh Jackson. Will he commit to Michigan State is becoming more and more likely but we will have a write up on Thursday of this week with more details on him and his possible commitment to the Spartans.

Now on to some side business. The twitter war that ourselves and another person were having on Twitter should not have happened. We got baited into it and we foolishly took the bait and started tweeting. For those who don’t know, it was over who came up the #TheClass hastag first. As much as we can go into depth about it, we would rather not argue with a high school teenager on Twitter or any other social media outlet. For those who follow us on Twitter, Facebook, etc. know the truth. We don’t need to argue on Twitter with another “alleged” Spartan fan. It won’t happen again.

On other side note, we want to make it perfectly clear that we or any other fan does not have any direct impact and or effect on Michigan State recruiting. Some naive fans think that they can “really” influence where a recruit goes to college. Now, if you give a recruit a hundred thousand dollars because you’re a big time donor than all bets are off and against the rules of course. The reasons why high school players commit to play at their future schools is because of the coach and coaching staff, current players on the team, the direction of the program, the school and social life it provides, and in some cases their AAU and high school coaches and or family members. This crazy notion that fans who have twitter accounts or make designs for certain for players have this profound impact on where they attend school is ludicrous. High school players want to know if where they attend school can eventually get them to “The League” aka the NBA. There are exceptions to this rule but ask any big time college coach or journalist and they will tell you the same. Miles Bridges didn’t wake up one morning and say, “FinalFourU” I have to go there or “Wow, I love this design of me as a Spartan, I must commit now”.  We with websites, Twitter handles, etc. are what Durrell Summers once called us, “People with Twitter Badges”.  No if and’s or maybe.

We have to address the Football “Meltdowns’’ as well. It is not how you start, it is how you finish. Did you know that the best Michigan State football team played the season of 2013? Do you know that, they struggled to “blow out” teams such as Western Michigan 26-13, USF 21-6, Iowa 26-14, Purdue 14-0, and Minnesota 14-3? Michigan State is 5-0 for the first time since 2010. Our schedule is on paper, the easiest it has been since possibly ever. Michigan State will be undefeated heading into Columbus, Ohio for the showdown between #1 and #2. We are 100% sure of this. Ohio State and Michigan State are playing with house money, not showing much at all, holding out players with minor injuries, and experimenting with 2nd and even 3rd stringers on offense and defense. Urban and Mark know exactly what they are doing like expert chess players. Let the season play out and all is well folks.

Lastly, if you have any questions don’t hesitate to tweet at us. We are always happen to answer any questions that you may have. We will come back on Thursday. As always, #TheClass #FinalFourU

 

 

 

 

#TheClass

Instead of going the traditional journalistic route, we will do question and answers.

Question: Is Miles Bridges Coming to Michigan State?

Answer: 100% Yes. He is the Fourth Member of #TheClass

Question: Are you sure?

Answer: Yes, jump up and down and do a dance because on October 3rd in Flint, Michigan he will give his verbal commitment to Michigan State.

Question: What is the million dollar question and answer?

Answer: Joshua Jackson

Question: Will he be the five member of #TheClass

Answer: Well…As you already know that Joshua Jackson moved to Michigan when he was eight months old. He attended Consortium College Prep School in Detroit, Michigan for his freshman and sophomore years. Prior to his junior year, Jackson and his family moved to California to attend Justin-Siena High School in Napa, California and play for Prolific Prep. Josh knows what happened to Cliff Alexander and even Emmanuel Mudiay. Tom Izzo develops tough players who can win and be very productive at the next level and Draymond Green is the perfect example. Izzo had two players go in the first round two years ago in Gary Harris and Adreian Payne which has warranted the attention of high school recruits like Josh. Branden Dawson and Draymond Green playing in California where we know Jackson will be watching some Clippers and Warriors games, it validates that Tom Izzo truly develops players and gets them prepared for the NBA. Josh spent most of his life in the State of Michigan. Rarely does Izzo lose top recruits from Michigan. Josh does like Michigan State by all accounts and Michigan State is a prominent blue blood program with a hall of fame coach. Tom Izzo has sworn to recruit differently and Izzo wants that second championship and Josh will make that a reality if he comes to play at MSU.

Question: You guys didn’t answer the question

Answer: We are more than ever convinced that landing Josh Jackson is a very strong possibility. However, it is complicated. There are only 13 scholarships to go around and we have been assured that Kenny Goins scholarship is multiyear not a year by year deal. Though, we have heard that after this season one underclassman is going pro and another is 90% going to transfer. So all is well. There is and will be a scholarship available for him.

Question: Answer the question already!!!

Answer: That and the previous statements are not questions. With now four verbal commitments there is a strong push to get Jackson on board especially from Miles. There is truth that Miles is strongly recruiting Jackson and that them having played AAU ball together has them both thinking about how great they could be as teammates in college. The whole Miami Heat Dream Team scenario has them dreaming of becoming the greatest college basketball next season oh wait for it…but ever. Jackson is not this kid that people having been making him out to be for the last year and a half. He is a solid honest teenager who is more Michigan State like than Duke or Kentucky. The rumors of him going to come to Michigan State are coming from his AAU coach and people “close” to Josh. Everything we are hearing has him coming to Michigan State. But we can not 100% guarantee it like we are with Bridges. So, our answer is more than likely.

Question: Will Jackson’s possible commitment make anyone de-commitment?

Answer: Absolutely not

Question: Is the real reason Jackson will commit to MSU do to a girl?

Answer: No but a certain MSU female student allegedly has frequent contact with him.

Question: Months ago people were hating on you guys for your #TheClass motto and saying that this was going to be the greatest basketball class ever was insane, so now what?

Answer: When the 2016 recruiting class is all said and done we will be vindicated.

*We will write more this week, but it is bedtime now…long story

#THECLASS

We have Three, who will be the Fourth for #TheClass?

The case for Miles Bridges being the Fourth:

Many would say just being from Flint, Michigan and receiving an offer from Tom Izzo and Michigan State would be enough for a recruit to commit to Michigan State. Bridges is not your average basketball recruit from Flint and being a 5 star top 20 recruit playing at an elite prep school out of state has some Spartan fans sweating.  The entire city of Flint is telling him to go to MSU. However, as we made mention before, Kentucky according to a “Useless” and very “Unpredictable” website that has “Crystal Balls” from these random sports recruiting bloggers making predictions to where high schools recruits will go has UK as an overwhelming favorite to land Bridges. We say otherwise. No trolling, no made up information, just pure truth. From our two very reliable Flint area sources that we spoke to early this morning, it is known that Bridges on October 3rd will be the Fourth member of #TheClass. Bridges had Kentucky #1 early this summer but Tom Izzo relentless recruiting and an amazing experience that Miles had when he went up to East Lansing all but sealed the deal. Rumors of Bridges having a not so good time this past weekend at Kentucky are grossly exaggerated. However, we are hearing that his heart is in East Lansing and that his Flint love and desire to be a part of the greatest recruiting class in college basketball has him dreaming of winning a national championship as a Spartan up in East Lansing. Nothing is 100% but we know what we know and we will be validated once again on our prediction.